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Dr. Robert Carr - The Roswell autopsy

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I personally knew Dr. Robert Carr. I never met the man. During 1980 and 1981 I talked to Dr. Carr about five times by telephone. He was living in the Tampa, Florida area at that time. We talked about the Roswell autopsy, of which he had an opportunity to read a portion of the autopsy report. He also indicated indirectly that he was a UFO contact person. (Face-to-face meetings)
 
Robert Carr Alien Autopsy Discussion

Part I

The recent film released by Ray Santilli has caused a great increase in interest in the so-called Roswell Crash, however, there are many who believe it will eventually be damaging to the credibility of the field. But stories of such autopsies have been circulating for years among UFO researchers and perhaps now is a good time to review previous claims to see how they might relate (or not relate as the case may be).

"The Roswell Incident" by Charles Berlitz and William L. Moore is credited with being the first major work on the 1947 crash, which had been dismissed by most as a weather balloon as had been reported by the military. This book was based to a large degree on research by Stanton Friedman and waspublished in 1980. It was some eight years earlier that Robert Spencer Carr announced to the world that he had evidence that the U.S. Government had autopsied the bodies of aliens captured in a crash in the southwest in early in 1948. I first became aware of his theories in 1972 when a program was aired on a Washington, DC radio station featuring two hours of audio from a UFO Conference that had taken place in Tampa, Florida early that year. I recorded that show, along with a one hour follow up panel discussion with Major Donald Keyhoe, and recently transcribed the portion of the tape that involved Carr's comments. I would be the first to admit that it is impossible to capture the nuances of speech in a simple transcription. Since I have attempted to transcribe it verbatim, there are sections that end in mid-sentence, and it may seem at times to be rambling. But the overall information is an accurate representation of the taped comments and many may find it of interest.

I regret that I did not write down more information on the program, as the name of the moderator is unknown to me at this time. Having worked as a News Announcer in the past, I would suspect that he had attended this conference and taped the proceedings for use on the air. As is usually the case, I'm sure he was given a set time slot to fill and had to edit the many hours of raw tape to fit. For that reason I am not convinced that the entire Carr statement is included, but the tale is an interesting one nonetheless.

Again, one must keep in mind that the Roswell Incident was not an issue in 1972, and Carr never connects the autopsy he describes with that alleged crash. I would also note up front that the autopsy, and the creature described, are vastly different than the one shown in the Santilli film. But with that in mind, there are similarities, and the differences could have been caused by attempting to create a coherent story from a few bits of information that he had been given. Indeed, an attempt by the radio reporter to verify Carr's statement failed. I don't believe that this statement proves anything, one way or the other, regarding the Santilli film. The creatures described by Carr also do not fit the descriptions given by others involved with the Roswell incident, which may cause some to dismiss it completely. However, I find it interesting to see how the issue came to light long before the Roswell Crash became a matter of investigation and interest.

For those who are not familiar with Carr, he was a Special Advisor to NICAP and also served as a Director of Educational Research for Walt Disney Studios. He also served with the Army Orientation Service and produced educational films for the State Department.

[Transcription begins]

Moderator- It was Professor Carr who sent shock waves through the Pentagon and the Air Force on October 14th, when he accused the Air Force of not telling the truth about Flying Saucers. At a news conference in Tampa, Florida, Professor Carr said he had information that the Air Force had two flying saucers and the bodies of twelve (12) spacemen on ice in a refrigerated building at Wright Patterson Field in Dayton, Ohio.

At the Flying Saucer symposium Professor Carr talked for an hour about what he calls the "worst kept secret in the world." The discovery in February, 1948 of two flying saucers in northwestern New Mexico, near the town of Aztec.


It is known throughout the academic world, the medical world, it is known throughout the Air Force, and above all it is known throughout the CIA, ah, that the Air Intelligence at Wright Patterson Field has in its possession a spacecraft, thirty-one (31) feet in diameter, and it is entirely undamaged, except for a hole...small hole broken in the plastic dome...the transparent plastic dome that covered the cockpit. And because of this accident in space, the twelve small human beings....ah....died suddenly of decompression, in the purely mortal way that our...that the Russian astronauts perished last year in a similar accident of decompression during re-entry. They were not shot down by our fighter planes, they suffered an operational loss.

However, in this particular case, it was very fortunate that our alert radar net in the western states had the UFO on its screen. In fact, three radar stations were tracking an unidentified object at immense altitude and traveling at unbelievable speed when it stopped ...fluttered...went out of control...and fell, circling toward the earth. Because three radar stations were locked on it, they were able to triangulate the point at which it reached earth. That point was three miles west of the small town of Aztec, New Mexico, in the northern part of the state near the Colorado line.
At that time I owned and operated a ranch in the high mountains of northern New Mexico. It happened in my neighborhood.

All available law enforcement officers were rushed to the scene, and planes were flown from the nearest Air Force Base, which is Edwards Air Force Base in the Mojave Desert. And, as they landed there was a silvery gleaming disc shaped spacecraft standing on a tripod landing gear. Apparently it made an automatic landing after its occupants had died. And, as the local sheriffs approached with drawn guns (oh, you can be sure the guns were drawn....let anything new appear, and the guns are drawn) .they surrounded the space craft and peered into the cockpit and there, slumped over their instruments, motionless, were twelve small men.
 
Robert Carr Alien Autopsy Discussion


Part II

The Air Force arrived, and due to their ingenuity (it was quite ingenious, but I won't go into the technical details) they managed to get the door open and the medical officers said that the bodies were...ah...well, the bodies were still limp and warm. They had been dead only a short time. They were put aboard a hospital plane and flown to the nearest large mortuary, which is at Edwards Air Force Base, where they have (as do all large military establishments) a large refrigerated morgue. After all, a very large base devoted to death would need a morgue. The City of Tampa has a refrigerated morgue for overnight visitors who can't find hotel accommodations (audience laughter).
Edwards Air Force Base received this in February, 1948. Now that was at the...in the..one of the worst periods of the cold war. The President was notified, but the President didn't come. No one knew quite what to do. The bodies were carefully preserved in cryonic (sp?) suspension, which is not as the Air Force spokesman on the television program yesterday in ridiculing and abusing me, said that "Bob Carr says little green men are being kept in the frozen food locker". You see, you just change a few words, and you can convert the story of the century into a bit of idiocy. First of all, they weren't green. They were fair skinned. All were males. They were between three and four feet in height, three and a half being about the average. All had light hair, differing shades of light hair, but on the brownish/yellow side. All had blue eyes. All had perfect teeth, without any dental work. All were superb physical specimens, with null asymmetrical development. Dressed in American clothes they could pass un-noticed on the streets of Tampa as small men or as children.

Now, it was decided...(Carr pauses)

Which do you want to hear about first? The really important news of what our leading metallurgists, electronics experts, and aeronautical engineers were able to find out about the spacecraft itself, or do you want to hear about the bodies.

First let's have a vote. How many of you want to hear about the construction and content of the spacecraft itself....(pauses to take note of raised hands)...Now, how many of you will not rest easy until you hear about the autopsy.....(crowd laughter)...this is by far a majority. And frankly, it's human. Who wants to hear about a giant solenoid, when you can hear about an autopsy.
One body was selected for autopsy by a carefully screen group of government physicians. Six performed the autopsy. It was photographed, motion pictures were made. You may be assured that it was done in an operating theater, under many watchful eyes. And, as our unfortunate little visitor from far away was dismembered and disemboweled, and his organs were laid out and identified, he was found to have the same organs that a human being has, and in about the same place. He was human. The blood type was human. Genes and chromosomes would match up with those of an Earth woman. Either we are their lost colony or they are our lost cousins. Biologically, the chances of utterly unrelated life developing across the aching immensities of interstellar space, and coming out with two absolutely identical species...the odds are like....well, it's like rolling thirty-seven (37) sevens in a row in a crap game, it just couldn't happen. No, we are somehow related.

They came here, probably, because they too are oxygen breathers, and water drinkers. If they had been ammonia breathing turtles, they could have gone to Jupiter or some congenial place. But, no, they were like ourselves, so they sought out our planet. Undoubtedly, there has been an unbroken link going back a long time.

Everything was quite normal until the celebrated brain surgeon got out his horrid little saw and sawed open the skull, and laid bare the right hemisphere of the brain, and then the six assembled surgeons gasped because they realized they were looking upon something that no human eyes had ever before beheld. There, on the body of a vigorous young man, estimated to be thirty (30) years of age in Earth time, could have been a small Olympic athlete, there in his skull was the brain of a human being several hundred years old. The surgeons said..the brain specialists said that never had they seen the surface of a brain so deeply, and so intricately convoluted. And as you all know, the convolutions of the brain are an indication, an infallible indication, of both the age of the brain and the state of its intellectual development. A feeble minded person of any age has an almost smooth brain surface. A new born baby has a smooth brain surface. But, as age and intellectual development occur, the convolutions become more pronounced...these are little folds and rivulets...you've seen them...ah...and they had never seen so highly convoluted a brain. And if the same biological standards apply to their planet, as they apply to this, there was a man several hundred years old who had been spared the infirmities of age, and had never known senility. What a gift this would be if they could tell us how they do it. Ponce DeLeon and his fountain of youth. If they could share their medical secrets, and other hygienic secrets with us...what a gift this would be to the human race. How much more amazing than the weapons I must tell you about, or the means of propulsion that the Russians at this moment doing everything they can to try and capture...would be the gift of life to the human race. This is what the Air Force is striking aside every day by armed attacks on Unidentified Flying Objects, which have done nothing hostile toward the United States, except possibly to fail to answer the recognition signal of the day..ah...in the right idiom.

Major Donald E. Keyhoe in his latest book, Aliens From Space, documents over one thousand instances where fighter plans have been scrambled to attach harmless UFOs with the most deadly weapons that we have developed, simply to try and shoot one down. They have never succeeded. Certain pilots during debriefing sessions...shaking...ashen faced...have told their commanding officers that they got within gun range...they opened up with four cannon...not one shell ever struck the skin of the UFO. Apparently they are surrounded by a powerful force field of electromagnetic emissions which can ...ah... is probably intended to protect them from meteorites, which of course are very dangerous, but will certainly make bullets curve enough to miss them. Think what that secret would be worth.
 
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